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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14459629 #1

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St. Pete http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14438362 #1

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14438679 #2

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14438788 #3

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14439379 #4

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14440592#5

 

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14459965
Kenner, LA http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14637389 #1

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14638230 #2

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14638400 #3

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14639076 #4

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14639139 #5


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Tonight - Gulf Council Amendment 32, gag and red grouper

Click for the Word document of suggested public comment or just read it below.

 

Amendment 32 talking points – suggested highlights in bold.

 

ABOUT THE DOCUMENT AVAILABILITY

 

Why were the documents not available until Wednesday afternoon? 

There was NO announcement when the documents WERE posted to the website.  Why not?  Who made the decision to NOT tell the public that the overdue documents were finally available, albeit only electronically? The main document is a 27 MEG download.  That is a HUGE file.  The public is rightfully offended by the Council’s lack of respect and obvious disdain for meaningful public input.

 

Does the Council have any idea or even care about the people who have no or very limited computer access?  This process has certainly denied the general public adequate time with the final proposals.  The Excuse of ‘we’re busy’ does not hold water.  Amendment 32 had initial public hearings over a year ago.  OVER A YEAR AGO, that’s what I said.  Not too busy to push catch shares, though, as we can see by all of the recent Council activity.

 

Now, the documents presented to us only days away from the FINAL HEARINGS are still labeled DRAFT.

 

While the Council spends hundreds of thousands of tax dollars on ‘outreach’ designed to ‘engage the angler in the management process, they systematically deny us the opportunity to provide thoughtful comments on proposed regulations.  This appears to violate the Magnuson-Stevens Act.

 

How stupid do you think the public is that we will allow you to treat us this way? We request another round of hearings with at least fifteen days in which to review the documents prior to a hearing. 

 

The recreational sector has spoken loud and clear: NO CATCH SHARES.  What more does the Council need?  Or is the catch share agenda another Council damn-the-public-opinion steamrollering of the public’s rights?

The recreational sector, including the majority of its for hire captains, have CLEARLY SPOKEN AGAINST SECTOR SEPARATION.  So why is the Council staff preparing a sector separation amendment?  How can the Council possibly deny their ignoring of public input?

 

ABOUT THE DOCUMENT ITSELF

 

Why is it still a draft?

 

How nice of them to condense 153 pages to 16 for your ease of understanding.

 

The document shows that Maximum Sustainable Yield is reduced by 25% and is renamed Optimum Yield.  This is an arbitrary 25% reduction.  It will now be even easier for the anti-fishing agenda to claim that anglers are overfishing.  What a crock of bad soup this is.

 

Why is the concept of re-capturing not considered?  We know full well and have scientific proof spanning fifteen years that daily re-capture of undersized fish is a regular occurrence, yet we treat every discard as a unique fish and apply a high release mortality rate.  This drives regulations to eliminate fishing effort.

 

Why is new best available science showing minimal release mortality in under 100 feet of water NOT being used?

 

Why have we not done a full benchmark stock assessment when your Scientific and Statistical Committee asked for it?  Because of the once in 30 year red tide event, the assessment is showing that the stock was reduced by 1/3.  This has been shown to be wrong, yet a new assessment is not on the five year schedule of assessments.

 

Given that release mortality estimates HAVE been lowered slightly, why is a 24” minimum size limit for recreational anglers not being considered?  It would result in a nearly 30% reduction in landings.  The reduction should be even higher now, given the knowledge that 2/3 of the released gag are in state waters with an average depth of less than 30 feet.  We would expect a benefit of more like 40%.  All that without destroying a person’s opportunity to fish.  This would maximize the biological effect and minimize the social and economic impacts.  DEMAND THAT THIS OPTION BE INCLUDED AND PREFERRED. (see below).

 

A slot limit on a grouper is insane.  Even your own Reef Fish AP rejected it unanimously.

 

We are concerned that the Council is once again using a couple of agenda-driven comments to paint the picture of the gag fishery in the northern gulf.  The individuals are proponents of sector separation and recreational catch shares.  This is another example of selective hearing on the Council’s part. 

 

Why are the Interdisciplinary Planning Teams, formed and directed by the National Marine Fisheries Service, writing the regulations behind closed doors and without any accountability for formulation and methodology behind landings reduction estimates?

 

Just like with Red Grouper, overwhelming anecdotal evidence has been presented attesting to strong abundance, strong recruitment and a wide range of sizes available in the gag fishery. These all contradict the flawed, outdated gag assessment.

 

This is a 3 billion dollar mistake that the state of Florida will bear the brunt of.  We have had enough of the mismanagement under which we have suffered for years.  We demand accountability for mismanagement.

 

We demand another round of public hearings, based on final documents available AT LEAST fifteen days prior to the hearing. 

 

2.2 Action 2. Recreational Bag Limits, Size Limits, and Closed Seasons

2.2.1 Gag Scenarios

PUBLIC PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE:

New full benchmark stock assessment.  Interim management to be 24 “ gag minimum size, 4 fish bag limit, 2 month spawning closure protection (Feb and March) for recreational AND commercial harvest.

 

If we have a spawning protection closure, it should be closed for all harvest.

2.2.2 Red Grouper Bag Limit

Preferred Alternative 3. Increase the red grouper bag limit to 4 fish per person. If, at

the end of any season, it is determined that the recreational sector has exceeded its red

grouper ACL, the bag limit will be reduced to 3 fish. If, at the end of any subsequent

season, it is determined that the recreational sector has exceeded its red grouper ACL

again, the red grouper bag limit will revert back to 2 fish.

 

Action 3 commercial dead discard adjustment – If dead discards are used in recreational calculations, then they should be used in commercial as well.

2.5 Action 5. Commercial Gag Size Limit

Alternative 1: No action. The commercial gag minimum size limit remains at 24 inches

total length.

Female gag reach 50% maturity at about 23 inches (Figure 2.5.1). At smaller size limits, the majority of the fish will not yet have spawned. This will reduce spawning potential and could negatively impact the rebuilding plan. These words say it all.  What is the motivation to kill fish before they reach sexual maturity?

 

2.6 Action 6. Time and Area Closures

*Note: more than one alternative and option can be selected as preferred

Alternative 1: No Action, Do not create additional time and area closures that prohibit

fishing for gag and other reef fishes.

 

There is not enough data to accurately assess stocks.  How come we can be so precise.

 

 

 

Note in the chart below that our new target is 25% less than our old one.  There is more, as they will do everything possible to make sure that we never achieve our true optimum yield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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LINKS TO DOCUMENTS

Get the full documents from the Gulf Council

Council condensed public input guide for gag and red grouper

Council condensed public input guide for annual catch limits and accountability measures

Council condensed public input guide for spiny lobster in the Gulf and South Atlantic

Read the letter from NMFS lawyers telling NMFS officials it is OK to ignore Congress

FRA guide to public hearings

DEMAND ANOTHER ROUND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THESE ISSUES

POINT OUT HOW WE WERE GIVEN NO TIME TO REVIEW THESE PROPOSALS

FURTHER READING:
Plenty more fish in the sea?

 

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Representative links and phone numbers for all SE US states:
 

Alabama:

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Richard C. Shelby (R- AL) 202-224-5744 202-224-3416
Senator Jeff Sessions (R- AL) 202-224-4124 202-224-3149
Representative Jo Bonner (R - 01) 202-225-4931 202-225-0562
Representative Bobby Bright (D - 02) 202-225-2901 202-225-8913
Representative Mike Rogers (R - 03) 202-225-3261 202-226-8485
Representative Robert B. Aderholt (R - 04) 202-225-4876 202-225-5587
Representative Parker Griffith (D - 05) 202-225-4801 202-225-4392
Representative Spencer Bachus (R - 06) 202-225-4921 202-225-2082
Representative Artur Davis (D - 07) 202-225-2665 202-226-9567

 

FLORIDA:

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Bill Nelson (D- FL) 202-224-5274 202-228-2183
Senator Marco Rubio - (R - FL) 202-224-3041 202-228-5171
Representative Jeff Miller (R - 01) 202-225-4136 202-225-3414
Representative Allen Boyd (D - 02) 202-225-5235 202-225-5615
Representative Corrine Brown (D - 03) 202-225-0123 202-225-2256
Representative Ander Crenshaw (R - 04) 202-225-2501 202-225-2504
Representative Ginny Brown-Waite (R - 05) 202-225-1002 202-226-6559
Representative Cliff Stearns (R - 06) 202-225-5744 202-225-3973
Representative John L. Mica (R - 07) 202-225-4035 202-226-0821
Representative Alan Grayson (D - 08) 202-225-2176 202-225-0999
Representative Gus Michael Bilirakis (R - 09) 202-225-5755 202-225-4085
Representative C. W. (Bill) Young (R - 10) 202-225-5961 202-225-9764
Representative Kathy Anne Castor (D - 11) 202-225-3376 202-225-5652
Representative Adam Putnam (R - 12) 202-225-1252 202-226-0585
Representative Vernon Gale Buchanan (R - 13) 202-225-5015 202-226-0828
Representative Connie Mack (R - 14) 202-225-2536 202-226-0439
Representative Bill Posey (R - 15) 202-225-3671 202-225-3516
Representative Tom Rooney (R - 16) 202-225-5792 202-225-3132
Representative Kendrick B. Meek (D - 17) 202-225-4506 202-226-0777
Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R - 18) 202-225-3931 202-225-5620
Representative Robert Wexler (D - 19) 202-225-3001 202-225-5974
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D - 20) 202-225-7931 202-226-2052
Representative Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R - 21) 202-225-4211 202-225-8576
Representative Ron J. Klein (D - 22) 202-225-3026 202-225-8398
Representative Alcee L. Hastings (D - 23) 202-225-1313 202-225-1171
Representative Suzanne Kosmas (D - 24) 202-225-2706 202-226-6299
Representative Mario Diaz-Balart (R - 25) 202-225-2778 202-226-0346

 

GEORGIA:

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Chambliss, Saxby - (R - GA) 202-224-3521  
Senator Isakson, Johnny - (R - GA) 202-224-3643  
(202) 225-2823 (202) 225-3377
Bishop Jr., Sanford D., Georgia, 2nd (202) 225-3631  (202) 225-2203
Deal, Nathan, Georgia, 9th (202) 225-5211 (202) 225-8272
Gingrey, Phil, Georgia, 11th
202-225-2931 
202-225-2944 
Johnson, Henry C. "Hank" Jr., Georgia, 4th (202) 225-1605  (202) 226-0691
Kingston, Jack, Georgia, 1st
(202) 225-5831
(202) 226-2269
Lewis, John, Georgia, 5th (202) 225-3801 (202) 225-0351
Linder, John, Georgia, 7th 202-225-4272 202-225-4696
Marshall, Jim, Georgia, 8th 202/225-6531 202/225-3013
Broun, Paul C., Georgia, 10th
(202) 225-4101
(202) 226-0776
Price, Tom, Georgia, 6th 202-225-4501 202-225-4656
Scott, David, Georgia, 13th (202) 225-2939 (202) 225-4628
Westmoreland, Lynn A., Georgia, 3rd (202) 225-5901 (202) 225-2515

 

LOUISIANA:

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Mary Landrieu (D- LA) 202-224-5824 202-224-9735
Senator David Vitter (R- LA) 202-224-4623 202-228-5061
Representative Steve Scalise (R - 01) 202-225-3015 202-226-0386
Representative Cedric Richmond (D-2) 202-225-6636 202-225-1988
Representative Jeff Landry (R-3) 202-225-4031 202-226-3944
Representative John Fleming (R - 04) 202-225-2777 202-225-8039
Representative Rodney Alexander (R - 05) 202-225-8490 202-225-5639
Representative Bill Cassidy (R - 06) 202-225-3901 202-225-7313
Representative Charles W. Boustany, Jr. (R - 07) 202-225-2031 202-225-5724

 

MISSISSIPPI

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Thad Cochran (R- MS) 202-224-5054 202-224-9450
Senator Roger F. Wicker (R- MS) 202-224-6253 202-228-0378
Representative Travis Childers (D - 01) 202-225-4306 202-225-3549
Representative Bennie G. Thompson (D - 02) 202-225-5876 202-225-5898
Representative Gregg Harper (R - 03) 202-225-5031 202-225-5797
Representative Steven Palazzo (R-4) 202-225-5772 202-225-7074

 

NORTH CAROLINA

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
(202) 225-3101 (202) 225-3354
Coble, Howard, North Carolina, 6th (202) 225-3065  (202) 225-8611
Etheridge, Bob, North Carolina, 2nd (202) 225-4531  (202) 225-5662
Foxx, Virginia, North Carolina, 5th (202) 225-2071 (202) 225-2995
Jones, Walter B., North Carolina, 3rd 202-225-3415 202-225-3286
Kissell, Larry, North Carolina, 8th (202) 225-3715 (202) 225-4036
McHenry, Patrick T., North Carolina, 10th 202.225.2576  202.225.0316
McIntyre, Mike, North Carolina, 7th (202) 225-2731 (202) 225-5773
Miller, Brad, North Carolina, 13th (202) 225-3032 (202) 225-0181
Myrick, Sue, North Carolina, 9th :(202) 225-1976 (202) 225-3389
Price, David, North Carolina, 4th 202.225.1784 202.225.2014
Shuler, Heath, North Carolina, 11th
(202) 225-6401
(202) 226-6422
Watt, Mel, North Carolina, 12th
(202) 225-1510
(202) 225-1512

 

SOUTH CAROLINA

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator DeMint, Jim - (R - SC) (202) 224-6121  
Senator Graham, Lindsey - (R - SC) (202) 224-5972  
Jeff Duncan (R-3) 202-225-5301 202-225-3216
Tim Scott (R-1) 202-225-3176 202-225-3407
Clyburn, James E., South Carolina, 6th (202)225-3315 (202)225-2313
Trey Gowdy (R-4) (202) 225-6030 (202) 226-1177
Mick Mulvaney (R-5) (202) 225-5501 (202) 225-0464 
Wilson, Joe, South Carolina, 2nd (202) 225-2452 (202) 225-2455

 

TEXAS

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R- TX) 202-224-5922 202-224-0776
Senator John Cornyn (R- TX) 202-224-2934 202-228-2856
Representative Louie Gohmert (R - 01) 202-225-3035 202-226-1230
Representative Ted Poe (R - 02) 202-225-6565 202-225-5547
Representative Sam Johnson (R - 03) 202-225-4201 202-225-1485
Representative Ralph M. Hall (R - 04) 202-225-6673 202-225-3332
Representative Jeb Hensarling (R - 05) 202-225-3484 202-226-4888
Representative Joe Barton (R - 06) 202-225-2002 202-225-3052
Representative John A. Culberson (R - 07) 202-225-2571 202-225-4381
Representative Kevin Brady (R - 08) 202-225-4901 202-225-5524
Representative Al Green (D - 09) 202-225-7508 202-225-2947
Representative Michael T. McCaul (R - 10) 202-225-2401 202-225-5955
Representative Mike Conaway (R - 11) 202-225-3605 202-225-1783
Representative Kay Granger (R - 12) 202-225-5071 202-225-5683
Representative Mac Thornberry (R - 13) 202-225-3706 202-225-3486
Representative Ron Paul (R - 14) 202-225-2831  
Representative Ruben Hinojosa (D - 15) 202-225-2531 202-225-5688
Representative Silvestre Reyes (D - 16) 202-225-4831 202-225-2016
Representative Bill Flores (R-17) 202-225-6105 202-225-0350
Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee (D - 18) 202-225-3816 202-225-3317
Representative Randy Neugebauer (R - 19) 202-225-4005 202-225-9615
Representative Charles A. Gonzalez (D - 20) 202-225-3236 202-225-1915
Representative Lamar Smith (R - 21) 202-225-4236 202-225-8628
Representative Pete Olson (R - 22) 202-225-5951 202-225-5241
Representative Francisco Canseco (R-23) 202-225-4511 202-225-2237
Representative Kenny Marchant (R - 24) 202-225-6605 202-225-0074
Representative Lloyd Doggett (D - 25) 202-225-4865 202-225-3073
Representative Michael Burgess (R - 26) 202-225-7772 202-225-2919
Representative Solomon P. Ortiz (D - 27) 202-225-7742 202-226-1134
Representative Henry Cuellar (D - 28) 202-225-1640 202-225-1641
Representative Gene Green (D - 29) 202-225-1688 202-225-9903
Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson (D - 30) 202-225-8885 202-226-1477
Representative John Carter (R - 31) 202-225-3864 202-225-5886
Representative Pete Sessions (R - 32) 202-225-2231 202-225-5878